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albinolatino said: Apparently I'm too pale to be Latino lol ok

latinagabi:

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diasporadash:

I’m unsure of the goal of this ask but, you’re surely not “too pale” to be overrepresented , glorified, exalted and used as the euro-centric standard in U.S. media and Latin@ media…. and in the [rampant] ingrained white supremacist cultural ideologies ie-“mejorar la raza,” preference for light skin, straight hair. I’m also pretty sure the jobs that call for “buena presencia” and that “no blacks need apply” would love for all applicants to look like you. No need to even talk about the denial tactics that make afrodescendants invisible within their own countries, “the Black grandma in the closet” or the ideologies/popular sayings that degrade “brown/dark skin”, and tout “el negro es feo” because hey, you’re too pale! 

OOP

I’ll keep saying it. White latin@s need to stop pretending they’re whiteness holds them back from anything. You are over represented and I do not care about your hurt feelings concerning your lightness.

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"I am not Spanish. Spanish is just another language I speak. I am not a Hispanic. My ancestors are not descendants of Spain, but descendants of Africa. I define my existence by race and land. (Borinken is the indigenous name of the island of Puerto Rico.)"

Rosa Clemente

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angrybrownbaby:

People who think racism is over if we all boink each other and make babies need to look at countries like Mexico where there’s a lot of mixing and A LOT OF RACISM. People don’t try to hide their heritage just because it’s fun. People don’t act ashamed of their heritage because it’s en vogue. The casta system used in colonialism worked a hell of a job in Mexico.

A lot of people have to depend on their blood myths to find out their heritage. Paper records are a recent thing, unless you go via the Catholic church’s baptismal records. Even then, if there was a fire or documents got lost, you’re fucked. It’s not like it is in the USA where everything is documented as a form of racial oppression. Oppression there is LACK of documents for many Indigenous people. Oral history is all what a lot of people have (that hasn’t been tainted by white people). We all know that oral history is not deemed “real” by a lot of people, particularly academia that needs a white person to verify everything.

Now I know it happened in other countries too but I’m not a jerk to speak for other countries I’m not from.

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Mexico would seem like an unlikely place to harbour Nazi sympathizers. After all, the majority of the population is mestizo – of mixed indigenous and European heritage – with only a small percentage of population being of “pure” European descent.
Outside of these groups, there is modest diversity. About 5% of the population speaks an indigenous language, with double that number identifying as indigenous. There are also descendants of Sephardic Jews who came with the earliest colonists, and “crypto-Jews” who settled in the Northern Gulf region.  These Jews had been hiding their identity since 1492, when Muslims and Jews were expelled from Spain during the “re-conquest” of Christianity and the expulsion of the Moors.
As evidence of how close this history remains, the town of Matamoros, Tamaulipas, across from Brownsville, Texas, literally translates as “murder the Moors”.
Over the past centuries Jews were excluded – and, to some extent, excluded themselves – from much of the dominant Mexican culture, finding success as professionals and business people. As well, in Mexico, unlike in Canada and the United States, Jews are not well represented in the political sphere.
Mexicans, however, are aware of their existence, and many hold on to views that can only be described as racist and ignorant. These harsh views are in fact more in evidence among those Mexicans of European descent than among the mestizo population, thoughthere is a subculture of mestizo skinheads that glorifies Nazism, much as we seen  in the United States, Canada, and parts of Europe.
Anecdotes can help elucidate some contemporary attitudes in Mexico.
Earlier this year, Mexico was transfixed by the story of a young disabled girl who had apparently gone missing from the home of her wealthy parents in Mexico City. There was no word from kidnappers, and the child would have been unable to walk off on her own. Some days later, she was found dead in her room, and her mother, Lynette Farah, described in the Mexican press as a “wealthy lawyer”, was charged with murder. As the story was breaking, an educated Mexican of European descent told La politica that the horrific event was believable given that the mother was Jewish.
In fact, Ms. Farah is a Christian of Lebanese descent. I’m not sure if there are any racist theories about that particular religious and ethnic group, but conspiracy theorists might want to take note that the richest man in the world, the Mexican Carlos Slim, is a Christian of Lebanese descent.
Here in Guadalajara, the anti-Semitism is hardly overt, but it does crop up in strange places. For example, a few blocks off the central square in Tlaquepaque,  the colonial neighbourhood to the south of town, there is a store selling “hunting and fishing supplies” that appears to be more devoted to the glorification of Nazi Germany. Outside the store is the owner’s Volkswagen 181, complete with a stylized Balkenkreuz Iron Cross and the Swastika with palm tree insignia for Rommel’s Afrika Korps. Inside, the store is plastered with Nazi flags.
A brief conversation with the owner, a man of Spanish descent who shall remain nameless, went like this.
“Why are you such a fan of Hitler?”
“He knew how to keep order.”
“But World War II was a disaster. And he killed six million Jews.”
“He didn’t kill six million Jews.”
“He didn’t?”
“No, three million died. And that was because Germany couldn’t feed them. All the supplies were going to the troops.”
“But why support someone who killed millions of people?”
“Half of Guadalajara is controlled by the Jews.”
“It is?”
“Yes. There is no such thing as a poor Jew.”
“What?”
“I am not against the Jews. They take care of themselves. Look at their ties to Israel. We in Mexico are a former Spanish colony. Does Spain help us? Do we help Spain? The Jews stick together. I admire that. We should, too.”
My excuse for being there was that I was interested in an air pistol. We waited for a few police officers to pass, and I took a couple shots at the empty building across the street. Not bad.
“Mind of I take some pictures?”
“Yes, please do!”
I told him I might come back. I think not.
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Argentina’s Black Population
In 2001, a black Argentine woman attempted to board a plane to Panamá when immigration officials denied her boarding because they did not believe her passport was real. These officers, her own countrymen, told her that her Argentine passport couldn’t be hers because she is black. These immigration officers are not alone. Many Argentines have been quoted as saying, no hay negros en Argentina (there are no blacks in Argentina). I, like so many others, not only believed this to be true, but are clueless to the fact that the famous Argentine Tango music and dance had its beginnings in Afro-Argentine barrios (ghettos).
It has been well over a century since Argentina reflected the African racial ancestry in its census count, but according to the organization Africa Vive (Africa Lives), it’s been calculated that there are about 1,000,000 African descendents in Argentina. The 2010 census introduced the African ancestry survey.
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mayateraza:

  • Argentina’s Black Population

In 2001, a black Argentine woman attempted to board a plane to Panamá when immigration officials denied her boarding because they did not believe her passport was real. These officers, her own countrymen, told her that her Argentine passport couldn’t be hers because she is black. These immigration officers are not alone. Many Argentines have been quoted as saying, no hay negros en Argentina (there are no blacks in Argentina). I, like so many others, not only believed this to be true, but are clueless to the fact that the famous Argentine Tango music and dance had its beginnings in Afro-Argentine barrios (ghettos).

It has been well over a century since Argentina reflected the African racial ancestry in its census count, but according to the organization Africa Vive (Africa Lives), it’s been calculated that there are about 1,000,000 African descendents in Argentina. The 2010 census introduced the African ancestry survey.

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"Mira, cuando les llamamos “chino” no es por ser racista. Es solo porque no podemos distinguir entre Uds, sus países. Pues, podemos identificar entre un acento argentino y un acento mexicano- pero no podemos identificar entre sus idiomas…"

- shit latino movement people say when i try to explain to them that calling all Asians “chinos” can be offensive/problematic, and there’s already a word in Spanish that is much more accurate/appropriate/less-problematic: “asiaticos”.

This shit makes me rage. And this was after I explained “Igual como no todos latinos son mexicanos- no todos asiaticos son chinos.”

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Over the past few weeks, we have read A LOT about the fact that George Zimmerman is not “white” but that he is “Hispanic” (even though when initial media reports of his February 26 shooting of Trayvon Martin called him “white”). It started when Zimmerman’s father, Bob Zimmerman, shared this information in a letter to the Orlando Sentinel, and within hours, bloggers (mostly conservative ones) were quick to emphasize that Zimmerman’s Hispanicity: You see, race baiters, he is NOT white? He is Hispanic! Shame on you, liberal mainstream media! You were quick to play the race card. White people are not racists!

Then, when that all died out (well, except for on forums that still have some choice words for Zimmerman’s and ethnic background), we started reading mainstream reports calling Zimmerman a “white Hispanic.” Yes, you New York Times, and others. And then FOX NEWS’ Bernard Goldberg went off.

We asked ourselves: why? Why the change and why was the label used? Why even describe Zimmerman’s ethnicity? What does it matter? Why is Goldberg a tool who has no clue about Latinos? Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin. He had a record of paranoia with “suspicious” (code word: Black) people. He is of Peruvian descent. So what.

Because, conservative bloggers and mainstream media outlets: Hispanics can be racist, too.

In fact, the basic social and economic tenets of Colonial Latin America were based on race. And classism in Latin American is still racially charged. Many tell the story of ‘knowing your place,” and it is one of Latin America’s ugliest secrets, one that recently has started to be discussed with more honesty.

But back to Zimmerman, the White Hispanic. We scratched our heads about this and kept asking ourselves why do members of the mainstream media insist on using this term when reporting in Zimmerman and why did people like Goldberg felt the need to “attack” the liberal media?

CNN contributor Ruben Navarrette Jr. offered his take, and quite frankly, his concluding paragraph should have stopped after word Hispanic, because after starting strong with his reason as to WHY the term was used, he failed miserably at the end:

"…I think [the mainstream media] were looking for a way to avoid what would have been an embarrassing about-face. They didn’t want to stand up and say: "We were wrong. Without having all the facts, we made certain assumptions about the suspect. And now it turns out that it’s not simple, that this story is more complicated than we thought and that this suspect is both white and Hispanic." So they turned to the term white Hispanic.

It is also possible that some in the media are afraid to frame the story as Hispanic versus African-American. I understand that. Relations between the nation’s largest minority and the group that used to hold that title are tense enough without adding fuel to the fire.

Whatever the reason for using this term, I don’t like it. And I don’t have any use for it. Are we now going to refer to people as white Hispanics and black Hispanics? Given that my complexion is a shade lighter than brown, should I be referred to as beige Hispanic? Where does this end?

Americans need to discuss race and ethnicity in serious ways. The tragic death of a young person is a serious issue. Everything about this story must be taken seriously. Distorting the language shows we’re not serious people.”

So, Ruben, call out the media for goofing up but then say that they didn’t want to frame the story as Hispanic vs. African-American? So, when stories like this one out of Pasadena happen (and this one is awful), the media can’t talk about the fact that the 911 caller who lied to police which lead to the death of an unarmed Black teen in Pasadena was Hispanic? As for Navarrette’s comment about white Hispanics and black Hispanics, well, isn’t that accurate to some? Race is part of the greater cultural complexity of what it is to be Latino in the United States. As for being afraid that you will be called a “beige Hispanic” (kind of a silly overreaction), Navarrette can use “mestizo” or “throwback” or whatever else he wants to use.

Come on, we even have a case of a Black Hispanic becoming a White Hispanic.

The point is: race and culture are interwoven in Hispanic/Latino communities, and it has never been a harmonious fit. To deny that reality is to deny that we as Latinos can be our own worst enemy when it comes to racism. If we aren’t bombarded with Univision and Telemundo shows with White, more light-skinned actors living the lap of luxury, all we need to do is look at popular culture: Latinos promote whiteness more than ever. They sell a world of whiteness, and have done do for decades. And that is wrong.

So, yes, Navarrette’s argument fails at the end of his column and Goldberg is on another planet (don’t you just love when media experts try to lecture others about Latinos?), and since we still didn’t feel satisfied, we just asked our readers and community members. Here are just a few of their responses:

"White Hispanic is the appropriate census jargon. Culturally, it’s offensive to socially conscious Latinos, but the context is accurate.

The irony here is that those of us who fall on the Caucasian end of the Latino color spectrum are not considered white by non-Latino/Hispanic whites.

Media manipulating society – if they can divide us against each other, it’s easier to control us. Interesting how this phrase has the potential to divide people more. “White” Hispanic vs “Black” Hispanic or just plain Hispanic? Or the addition of Hispanic, just to remind everyone he is not really white?

I’m not a big fan of the term Hispanic because it’s a census term and label; NOT a culture… Our combined, tapestry of cultures, IMHO, falls under the beautiful, vast umbrella of us all being ‘Latinos.’ To me, the word ‘Latino’ implies diversity and unity, whereas the term ‘Hispanic’ screams government labeling.

To other folks I am perceived as Italian, Portuguese, Mexican, South America, never of Puerto Rican antecedents, and never told I am a White Hispanic. My birth certificate says White under Race. I am la Trigueña in my immediate family.

My husband is Caucasian and I’m Peruvian, so would that term be appropriate for my two kids since they are half and half. I mean I always check the Hispanic/Latino box for ethnicity for them and white for race for them also. Also to me, they should celebrate both cultures equally. Does that make me a sellout of sorts? I don’t understand what the appropriate term would be for them. I would take that as a description of my beautiful daughter who is Half Mexican and half Irish. I don’t take offense. The way we are so mixed these days. I believe the more we mix, the more beautiful and smarter our children are.  It would be nice if the media would not. Say the person’s race race has nothing to do with the crime you commit there’s racism even with our own race people that dislike what they are very sad. But I do remember the days that when a minority committed a crime you would just hear black man Hispanic man full description and when a white person conifer a crime they would run it by so fast with no description the media has a lot to do with how America sees us.

The media insists on slapping racial (and racist) labels on people, plain and simple. It doesn’t matter what “race” Zimmerman is…an idiot is an idiot. What was a Neighborhood Watch Volunteer doing with a gun in the first place? But I digress…What will the media do next? Perhaps label Mr. Zimmerman as “A descendant of Sephardic Jews”? Anything to bulk up a word count or cater to the lowest common denominator.

For me it doesn’t make a difference to be a Spanish white man from Spain, who cares? racism is racism, and black, brown or white Spanish doesn’t matter, if anyone wants to make a difference, we are a culture all Spanish people, have to make the difference, because white America, will do anything to divide us. They will say, you are from Spain and you are better than Mexicans or Puerto Ricans or the other way around. This is the time, regardless of our ideas, when we have to stand together, because if we don’t, tomorrow may be your son, brother etc, just remember, they divide you today, tomorrow it won’t matter if you are better or not, you are just that, Spanish or Latino

‎”White Hispanic” – a person who is able to change a Latino surname in exchange for a ‘proper’ English one to avoid discrimination and is able through his or her physical appearance to assimilate into the politically dominant culture -white.”

The real issue is this: labels do nothing to help us dissect a tragedy. But we can still have serious discussions about race in America, because no matter who you who are and with whom you identify with, racism affects us all, and for some, it can lead to tragic consequences.

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Reviewing the results of the 2010 Census the online publication Latino Decisions noted that, “the Latino population is responsible for much (74%) of (a) 6.5% increase in white population. This poses an interesting dilemma: Latino population growth is driving the national movement toward majority-minority status, but the rise in white identifying Latinos is also responsible for a renewed growth of the U.S. white population.” Indeed, the Pew Hispanic Center’s 2004 report also noted that nearly half of Latinos identified as white on the 2000 census.  So when the news of the shooting first broke, Zimmerman was variously identified as white, white Hispanic (by law enforcement) and Spanish-speaking.  In the eyes of the Orlando police, Zimmerman was able to occupy whiteness in a way that would never be afforded a biracial person with identifiable African heritage.  This kind of ambiguity—or what feminist activist Diane Arellano has called “lesser white status”—is part of what legitimized Zimmerman’s self-defense claim.”

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Black children in America are never innocent.  Innocence looks like Dick and Jane, our bright-eyed tour guides through the idyll of green lawns, lazy bike rides down hopscotched sidewalks, and the mystery meat treasure of sandboxes under blue skies that sparkle into eternity.  From the 1930s into the 1960s Dick and Jane taught America how to read the American dream.  Picture book primers with these two characters snaked through every schoolhouse from the Deep South to the rugged West of African American “Promised Land” reveries. Before the mainstreaming of phonics, the Dick and Jane primers were the first to provide sight reading instruction supposedly grounded in average everyday life.  In their sun-kissed freckle-faced average-ness, Dick and Jane schooled America in the cultural literacy of suburbia and the holy trinity of nuclear family, heterosexual marriage, and whiteness.  Neat, well-dressed, ever-courteous, they established the template for a “normal” childhood of perfect single family homes in segregated subdivisions that would be tethered to the world’s largest interstate highway system in 1955.  Father was breadwinning and boozing. Mother was homemaking and Easy-Off sniffing.  Spot the family dog brooded faithfully at brother Dick’s side, primed to rip off the balls of any intruder.  Government subsidized Federal Housing Administration (FHA) loans and GI Bill funded college educations smoothed the pathway for Dick and Jane’s nuclear bootstrapping.  Black vets and black families needn’t apply.

In her World War II era novel The Bluest Eye Toni Morrison begins almost every chapter with a bitter homage to the manufacturing of Dick and Jane. The book opens with “Here is the house.  It is green and white.  It has a red door.  It is very pretty. Here is the family.  Mother, Father, Dick, and Jane.”  On the next page the words blur together, spidery and damp, underscoring the brutal contrast between idyllic Americana and the novel’s blistering story of incest, racial apartheid, misogyny, and psychic degradation in the life of a black Midwestern family.

As metaphors for American innocence Dick and Jane continue to taunt and terrorize.  These are the bodies that matter, that are worthy of protection, that demand the kind of national security epitomized by America’s panting 24/7 tabloid obsession with all the missing Caylees, Jaycees, Chandras, Elizabeths, and Natalees.  This is the legacy of human value and worth that so-called “white Hispanic” neighborhood watch “captain” George Zimmerman, like scores of American children of all ethnicities, was steeped in when he murdered Trayvon Martin in cold blood. It is the code that gives law enforcement license to criminalize the lives of blacks while harboring white killers.  Some residents of the Sanford gated community where Martin was killed allege that Zimmerman targeted black men.  Early on, his white father sought to deflect charges of racism by trotting out his Latino heritage.  Yet reference to his “biracial” status hardly neutralizes claims that he subscribed to racist beliefs about black people.  In the U.S., Latino racial identification has always been fluid, whereas the categorization of blacks has historically been bound by the “one drop rule”, or the rule of hypodescent.  Reviewing the results of the 2010 Census the online publication Latino Decisions noted that, “the Latino population is responsible for much (74%) of (a) 6.5% increase in white population. This poses an interesting dilemma: Latino population growth is driving the national movement toward majority-minority status, but the rise in white identifying Latinos is also responsible for a renewed growth of the U.S. white population.” Indeed, the Pew Hispanic Center’s 2004 reportalso noted that nearly half of Latinos identified as white on the 2000 census.  So when the news of the shooting first broke, Zimmerman was variously identified as white, white Hispanic (by law enforcement) and Spanish-speaking.  In the eyes of the Orlando police, Zimmerman was able to occupy whiteness in a way that would never be afforded a biracial person with identifiable African heritage.  This kind of ambiguity—or what feminist activist Diane Arellano has called “lesser white status”—is part of what legitimized Zimmerman’s self-defense claim.

In his role as neighborhood watch captain, Zimmerman was upholding the time-honored tradition of white homeowners’ associations that protected white communities from dark interlopers.  During the era of restrictive covenants, pioneering 1940s subdivisions like Long Island’sLevittown New York ensured that black homebuyers were excluded through discriminatory clauses buttressed by the FHA, real estate brokers, private lenders, and banks.  In Los Angeles, black homebuyers who overstepped these boundaries were targeted, profiled, and often run out of their new homes by the local blockbusting “welcome wagon.”  These exclusionary white affirmative action policies solidified white middle class upward mobility. And their legacy can be felt in 21stcentury America as residential segregation continues to trump income.  According to Brown University’s 2011 “Separate and Unequal” report, “affluent blacks have only marginally higher contact with whites than poor blacks” and the overwhelming majority of all whites still live in white communities (regardless of class background).  Then as now, national security meant protecting white homes and white property values.  Open carry and stand your ground laws merely reinforce this regime by giving white citizens carte blanche to police the “dangerous” racial other.  Fifty-seven years after Emmett Till was lynched in the name of white womanhood, the murder of Trayvon Martin—a beautiful son, friend, and prospective college student—is yet another testament to the terror of white picket fence innocence.